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Hey, I'm re-doing this list since it's been a while and I want to create wishlist characters based off of story potential, rather than just random characters 8w8 I had an idea for one right now, so I thought I should get it down while I can.

FORNLEE #1

Colors: They could be either softer colours that gives a gentle, shy impression.... Or they could be darker colours, a constant reminder of the cruel place from which they came. Or maybe both? Both might be good, haha xD
Patterns/markings:
As long as it's not overly-complicated, I don't mind. I prefer simpler designs but I do enjoy small pattern details in certain places (usually just one or two places for contrast)
Gender: Any!! I prefer gender neutral designs.
Hairstyle/color: Hairstyle doesn't matter too much, though I'd aim for something that conveys shyness (perhaps a longer fringe than usual for example).
Accessories: Not too many, but generally a couple Bagbean-like accessories - items that give softer, calmer impressions. I'm thinking something that goes over the shoulders like a shawl would work well <3
Fangs: Nah.
Scars: Maybe some from when they were very small, but they are otherwise unharmed. Their scars will be very healed over by now, and subtle.
Personality:
From what I've heard, the place where Fornlees typically live seems to be more brutal and harsh/gritty than the other main continents. However, there hasn't been much info or any trials released for them. This is where the idea sparked from!!!
Perhaps there is a Fornlee who had a rather scarring childhood, grew up in the rough Fornlee homeland. One day, something terrible happens to their home and threatens them... So they feel no choice but to flee. They flee to griffia in search of help, though still young. I'd be able to write/comic out the immigration trial but in a more stressful light, rather than your basic hit the checkpoints deal. The Fornlee runs between Bagbeans of important status, asking for help, but no one's quite sure what to do.
Eventually, the Fornlee will end up growing up in Griffia, becoming a nicer character and doing trials that normally Bagbeans would do. Of course, since Fornlees aren't as used to these trials and are different anatomically, they'd probably have trouble in doing so, but will eventually work through their problems.
Maybe after they've lived there a while, their buried, forgotten past suddenly comes back to haunt them in a more direct threat than ever....
Similar designs/designs I like:
#19 Fornlee by Kitkabean #14 Fornlee by Kitkabean #26 Fornlee by Kitkabean #37 Fornlee by Kitkabean
Soft creamy colours, darker browny/blacky colours, innocent look, scars, simpler design and less clothing (but a shawl would be nice).


More will come soon, if I get any clear character/story ideas!!
All Griffian Species were created for use in Bagbeans, AnubianEmpire and FluffleTales by griffsnuff (griffsnuff does not own the latter 2 groups though xD oops this credit is getting confusing). I do not own any of the species listed, I just hold the concepts for potential characters in their various species, listed above. Please be mindful of my wishes and do not blatantly copy ideas off of here, though you are of course allowed to take inspiration as anyone is in art~ uwu

Name: Maze
Nickname/s: Depends on whoever they're 'being' at the moment!
ID:#500
Owner: TaiintySoup (but really, everyone!!!)
Gender: Non-binary/Gender-fluid/etc (they're in their middle-place)(Any pronouns)
Age: Unknown
Height:  45cm (so smol!!!)
Species: Bagbean
Type: Event
Bag type: Side-bag
Mutations: None! (Though they seem to pop up unexplainably when switching personalities)

LVL: 0
Magic path: Not ready
Weapon of choice: ?
proficiency: ?

City of origin: Unknown
Occupation: The everybean! They can be anyone, they can be everyone! But today, they're not sure who to be...
Political status: Royal

Personality:
Indecisive yet undeniably cheery. Almost annoyingly so. They talk to anyone and everyone they meet, hoping to get an idea of who to be next, but in their 'art-block' like current mood, they can't seem to settle on anything. The best thing they can do is look out for friends and be happy as ever (and perhaps a little unaware as to how strangely imposing/weird they're being).

Creation information: Info here - #500 Royal Event BB - 1 year Anniversary Mascot
Designer: griffsnuff
Former owners: Maze belongs to everyone! Not just me! Even this version of Maze isn't exclusive to myself...




STATS



SKILL STATUS

HP: 10 ( START HP Is always 10 )
Attack:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff Pixel bean by griffsnuff
Speed:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff Pixel bean by griffsnuff Pixel bean by griffsnuff
Stealth:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff Pixel bean by griffsnuff
Defence:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff Pixel bean by griffsnuff Pixel bean by griffsnuff

WEAPON STATUS

CHAKRA STATUS

MAGIC STATUS

ELEMENT




PEANUT COUNT
(Peas cannot be earned through Maze)
All peanuts earned through Maze (including those converted):
Peanut by griffsnuffX08




INVENTORY

Beans 
Keychains
Potions
Magic items
Diplomas
Certificates
Trophies
Ribbons




TIME TREE

Time beans = None
Watering counter = None
Tree status = None
Tree art count = None




RELATIONSHIPS

Friends
Tobias Ref Sheet - Redesign+Berserk Form by TaiintySoup Tobias Bagbean TrackerName: Tobias
Nickname/s: Toby
ID: #206
Owner: TaiintySoup
Gender: Male (he/him or they/them pronouns)
Age: 23 (young and naive, still learning)
Height:  55cm
Species: Bagbean
Type: Common (Wolverine)
Bag type: Side strap bag (normal)
Mutations: Long claws
LVL: 0
Magic path: Not ready
Weapon of choice: Not ready
Proficiency: ???
City of origin: Cannelini (Snowy City Bean)
Occupation: ???
Political status: Commoner
Personality:
Tobias, despite the rough and tough appearance, is in fact a rather cowardly and hopeless Bean. As a kid, they might accidentally hurt others with their long claws, which made them feel very bad. The more they retracted themself from physical contact and the more nervous they became, the more they were seen as a coward in the public's eye.
Durin

Name: Tobias
Owner: TaiintySoup
Though Tobias is quite the tough customer, usually putting up an annoyed face whenever Maze comes near, Maze has accidentally associated him with being their go-to indecisive buddy. Maze tends to turn up to ask Tobias for ideas whenever they're feeling indecisive, much to Tobias's dismay. Though Tobias is usually grumpy near Maze, Maze can't help but notice when he's feeling down and they're determined to dig down into his problems and help. Often though, this just comes off as annoying to Tobias, unfortunately. Still, Maze is one of the few friends that Tobias has, so he doesn't ever push them away forcefully.
Art with this Bean and Maze:
Maze's Phases by TaiintySoup

Soulmate/Allies/Companions/Magic Familiar
MAZE: Eeep!! N-no thank you, I'll do without!




TRIALS

Identity trial Not finished
Builder trial Not finished
Discovery trial Not finished
Lesser Magic trial Not finished
Advanced magic trial Not finished
Occupation trial Not finished
Market trial Not finished
Lovebean hatching trial Not finished
Soulmate trial Not finished
Allies trial Not finished


TRAINING

Chakra training Not finished
Skill training Not finished
Weapon training Not finished
Mag point training Not finished
Elemental training Not finished

CLASSES

Smelting class Not finished
Bottle making class Not finished
Potion making class Not finished
Egg hatching class Not finished
Cooking class Not finished
Herbalism class Not finished
Magic jewling class Not finished




ART
Bagbeans Icon Entry!! by TaiintySoup Maze's Phases by TaiintySoup Maze Ref Example by TaiintySoup




ART BY OTHERS




LITERATURE
EDIT: Btw, I'd rather not have whiteknighting ;A; I know this user is a pain but they'll likely be dealt with soon enough without extra harsh comments. Plus, something tells me that getting angry at them will only make them try to worsen the problem. Just be mindful of them and leave it at that, please guys ;o;

Yo, so I didn't wanna make a call out for this person since they're probably just a dumb kid who doesn't know what they're getting themself into, but they're making so many damn accounts that I decided I may as well keep track of them somewhere visible.
This user first started stealing my art (and is still making accounts trying to mimic/impersonate my username), and they are also stealing heavy amounts of artwork from bloodorangepancakes and griffsnuff (and now Momoless too) and are generally being a massive nuisance (also tagging Faky-bean since this person is also bothering them). So this is where I'm gonna keep track of all their accounts while I wait for dA to respond to my report and hopefully have them IP banned to stop the issue.
Bagbeans community, watch out for this user!

:icondolphydolphiana1:DolphyDolphiana1 - First account (icon is stolen artwork from my old account)
:icontobiassoup:TobiasSoup - Second account (mimicking my username and using my Bagbean character, Tobias, as well as stealing Griffsnuff's and BloodOrangePancake's art)
:iconxtobiasbeanx:XTobiasBeanX - Third account (stealing mainly artwork from BloodOrangePancakes)
:icontobiasxanadu:TobiasXanadu - Forth account (popped up this morning, saw them appear in my visitors widget. Stolen my icon, as well as Griffsnuff's and Momoless's artwork (at least I'm pretty sure that's Momoless's artwork (the tail comparison sketch) though I couldn't find the original deviation in their gallery 8w8;; correct me if I'm wrong))

Find them on another account? Lemme know so I can add it to the list!
Status posts are hard to find, so I'm gonna use this journal too keep track of the ever-growing Bagbutt Army instead xD If I ever decide to stop making them, or just feel up to compiling them properly, I'll probably make an actual compiled deviation for them all. But for now, this is the place you come to to see all those delicious beany wiggles 8)

WARNING - THIS IS A RANT JOURNAL. I'LL LIKELY BE SPEAKING MY MIND ON SOME SENSITIVE SUBJECTS, SO READ ON AT YOUR OWN DIGRESSION. With that warning aside, I hope you all can bare with me, this is going to be another mini-essay sort of journal TTwTT I just see this happen a lot, and I feel like writing down my feelings on the subject will help to clear my mind a little. I'm sorry if I step on anyone's toes ;n; it is not my intention to spite anyone, or prevent anyone from doing what they feel they have to.

I tend to get ticked off quite easily to a lot of things in deviantArt species culture (if you couldn't already tell). That doesn't mean that there isn't anything good in these communities - as you can see I am trying to make use of those good benefits myself with my own species, reviving it and trying to create an interactive ARPG group... But that doesn't mean I'm numb to certain trends that tend to annoy me... ;;w;;

One of the things that I didn't really cover (enough) in my long essay journal was the subject of 'clicking' with species characters. I say species characters because I find this happens mostly with them, and very rarely with non-species characters (which makes sense, often species character's are hard to obtain and as soon as someone feels they might not be getting their money's worth, they're less likely to drop or work on it and more likely to scramble for a new character, in case that helps their situation).

So what exactly is my problem with this whole 'trend'? It's a combination of things, that often relates back to my personal experience of owning characters.

One thing I always noticed as I was growing up and creating characters was that I didn't really mind if their designs weren't perfect. My old characters had gross colour schemes, were clunky and sometimes too complicated for me, but I loved them anyway. I have gotten better at designing my own characters over the years, but that's not why I dropped the old ones. I dropped the old ones because their STORIES were obsolete, a sort of practice round. I'd grown to love them and it felt terrible to let them go, but I knew I would create better things that I would love more (and I do). Furthermore, those characters became a part of my life and history, and even though I don't use them anymore, I wouldn't ever even think to trade them away.

The thing I tend to have the most problem with, when it comes to people trying to get attached to their species characters, is that they don't really... simply put, 'try hard enough.' I have the strong belief that you can get attached to any character, any creature, no matter how ugly or stupid, as long as you give them enough of a chance. And yet, I constantly see people getting beautiful species character designs, drawing 1 or 2 things of them, and then going "nah it's not working" and immediately trying to swap them for something else (which they will inevitably do the same thing with).

"Isn't that hypocritical, Soup? You traded away your first Bagbean because you didn't 'click' with them." This is partially true, and helps me to understand the need for trading away species characters. I do feel like I at least gave my first Bagbean a chance, though. And the reason I traded them away wasn't because I didn't 'click,' but rather because I had already solidified their personality in my mind, and their personality was unfortunately way too close to that of another character I owned and loved more. I couldn't picture them with a different personality, especially since I'd gone to such lengths as ordering a custom design to match it, and working to get potions and etc to change it didn't seem worth it to me... Furthermore, I'd intended to own him as a secondary character to another Bagbean (that I never managed to get) so he could interact as a foil character. Though I didn't want to trade him away and see his personality I'd worked on messed with, I did anyway so that I'd get a better chance with a new character. It still weirds me out when I see them in my deviation feed, with a different personality, different appearance. It's out of my hands though, and part of the deal I made, so I can't complain.

But, at least from an outsider looking in, when I see someone trading a character because they didn't 'click,' it feels less like they TRIED and more like they couldn't be bothered. Like they expected their character to be something they'd get attached to the moment they saw and owned them.

That's not how characters work!!! Getting attached to a character through appearance alone is shallow and incredibly rare and tricky to accomplish! In fact, most characters I see who their owners got attached to from appearance alone were people who'd already planned out a character to fit a custom design, or had it associated with something important to them. They had already worked on that character and therefore had an easier time 'clicking'.

And I say 'clicking' in quotation marks because 'clicking,' in my eyes, is really more of an illusion than anything. You're more likely to slowly and gradually find attachment to a character over time, than to immediately fall in love with them with little to no work done on them. You could give me a character and I'll either do nothing or draw one thing of them and then forget about them... Or I'll keep drawing, write for them, explore their emotions and try to figure out what makes them tick, what they enjoy and what scares them, what they want in life, where their flaws lie. And then I'll gain attachment, slowly, over time. The thing is that people seem to think that with species characters, you either have to 'click' with them immediately or they are worth nothing to you. No, you need to WORK on them like any other character. Like buying a pet, you are buying a small commitment. The work isn't over once you hand the cash over because you still have to take care of them, learn about them, figure out their personality and their relations to you.

So when I see someone trading away a ridiculously pretty design that they are so lucky to own after only a week or two of owning them... It makes it seem like they didn't even care! Like they were too blind to realise how lucky they were to own a design like that, to own a chance to get attached to a character that a lot of other people would love to get attached to. It's seen as an object, a pretty ornament, rather than an EXPERIENCE. It's like buying a puppy, and then when it grows up and isn't cute anymore, giving it to the pound where it will likely never find a loving owner again. It just gets passed around, battered, bruised, an object.

And it feels almost betraying, on top of the fact. As if this was a character they were going to actually stick with, someone they were going to get attached to, and you might have gotten enthused for them and excited to see how they develop and get attached to them as well. And then a week later, they go up for trade. Off to a new owner, someone you likely don't know, someone who might just trade them on again, or leave them to rot. I feel myself committing to loose ends, over and over. And I understand when you feel it's for the best, that you really did try... But when there was no attempt at all? It stings a little. Then again, I probably shouldn't get myself involved in other people's decisions with their characters...

I'd like to make an example of my current Bagbean, Tobias. As it stands right now, I have not 'clicked' with him. When I first got him, his design was not the most appealing to me. I could very easily decide to trade him away right now. But I'm not. I'm working on him. I understand that I haven't found a proper attachment to him yet, but I know that if I work hard enough on him then I will. I know that I likely will need more characters for him to interact him with because that is the best way for me to form attachment to characters. I also got a potion so that I could change his design to something I liked more. His personality isn't fully realised in my head yet, but that does not automatically mean that I should give up on him. That means that I am getting there, and I need to keep going. I love character development, too, and I know that even though I am having a rocky time getting attached to him right now, I am always receiving the benefits of the ARPG peapoints system as I go. Furthermore, this character was once a pass-me-on character, switching between a fair few people's hands, and I didn't want that for him anymore. I wanted this character to be loved instead of seen as an object, and I knew how to do that. So that is what I am doing.

That point aside, I understand when trading happens for a real, good reason. I understand when someone has tried but it didn't work because of a good reason. I understand when characters need to be traded because someone needs a design that better fits the personality/role they had in mind. I understand when people trade because they find trading more fun than getting attached to the characters and working on them. But I don't understand when people do enjoy getting attached to characters, but trade them away immediately because they're under the impression that a different design will give them a better chance at all. I've seen people getting their dream design and then trading them away because they didn't " " click " " with them. The design isn't going to make a difference, guys, it's the work you put into the character.

So that's about all I had to say. PLEASE NOTE, THIS JOURNAL ISN'T DIRECTED AT ANYONE SPECIFIC!!! I simply see this happen all the time, and it gets on my nerves a lot haha TTwTT I wanted to perhaps show a different piece of mind that might explain why exactly this happens, and why characters don't immediately 'click'. If you want to keep trading for 'click' related reasons, I have no place to stop you. I just hope you can take something from this, at least 8^8 And maybe reconsider being so hasty with future trades.

That said, if you made it to the end of this journal, thanks for sitting through all that TTvTT haha... I hope you have a swell day ;;A;; And continue to do the things you love <3 Sorry for making you sit through this smelly heap of a rant TTwTT And if you are wondering, yeah, I feel a bit better after getting that all out.
Hey all ;;w;; Thought I ought to make my own Shard Tracker for CuilleckCanyon so I can start testing myself. Im only going to count artwork of my own CuilleckCanyon species characters up to this point (no vague sketches or etc) and I won't be counting adoptable images either (from before or after now).

TIMELINE


Artwork Created/Gifted Artwork

sta.sh/2293orln4lkr +106 shards
Old Gifts for me (15 shards total) +21 shards
TOP DOG by TaiintySoup+7  CuilleckCanyon Icon (LARGER) by TaiintySoup+22

Spent Shards On...

Nothing yet...
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

CURRENT TOTAL SHARD COUNT

Shard by TaiintySoupx156


Spent Shard Count

Shard by TaiintySoupx0


Total Shard Count Overall

Shard by TaiintySoupx156


OWNER INVENTORY

Nothing yet...

Entire Current Inventory

Nothing yet...

Used/Given/Traded Items

Nothing yet...

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Tobias Expression Terror (Carnival) by TaiintySoupx1 Pop a Bean Balloon - Tobias by TaiintySoupx20 Help the Nature - Tobias (Earth Day, Carnival) by TaiintySoupx25 IT'S NOT UNUSUAL (Silly Dance Game) by TaiintySoupx16

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Any Griffian you own that has participated in this Carnival

Tobias Ref Sheet (Redesign) by TaiintySoup 206 - Wolverine by TheKingdomOfGriffia
EDIT: Added another! 8D
Everyone's doing these!!! And I feel particularly in the mood to try some character building, so I may as well spend it on a potential wishlist yo 8) Since otherwise they might go unused.

NO.1

Bagbeanthinger98439056 by TaiintySoupFirst doodles to try and develop/figure out design. There she iiiis~
Type of Bagbean: Floral (undecided on plant, probably a flower of some kind. Whatever fits, I suppose?) but would settle for an alternative, I'm not picky.
Bag or backpack: Bag
Colors: Mostly dark colour scheme, blacks and similar shades. Offset by secondary contrasting colour (white) as well as other secondary colour (that matches plant/animal/whatever colours possibly?)
Gender: Female
Patterns/markings: More detailed markings don't matter too much, so long as it works with the design and isn't too complicated (I prefer simple designs). However I would really like these specific (larger?) markings:
#421 Charity Bagbean - Pelican CLOSED by griffsnuffThe black glove-like markings like on this bean.
Bagbeancolourthinger5474524 by TaiintySoupInnocent-looking white markings that contrast the dark colours - A large white spot over one eye (left?) and a large white marking covering the opposite leg from the hip down.
Maybe some lower eyeshadow-like black markings? Also, the tail should probably be dark to match the sleeve-markings if possible. These ideas can always be played around with though if they don't really work.
Hairstyle: Spiked outwards at back, slowly curves forward, covers eyes a little at front.
Accessories: Spiked collar around neck. Possible earrings and/or leather jacket? Other accessories up to griffsnuff, nothing too complicated though, doesn't HAVE to have any more accessories tbh.
Teeth yes or no: No teeth.
Scars yes or no: Bite scar visible on the neck (See headshot sketch up there ^^^)
Personality (basics):
Grumbly, tired, no-nonsense emo type Bean xD Usually speaks quite slowly, with a sarcastic tone. Has a secret softer side, but you have to dig deep to find it. Has a fear of Reeds (the dogs of griffia) as they were bitten as a Sprout.
Existing Beans with colours/designs that are close to what I'd like for them/could provide inspiration for:
327 - Eurasian Magpie by TheKingdomOfGriffia 190 - Pied Bat by TheKingdomOfGriffia 368 - White-Headed Snake by TheKingdomOfGriffia 220 - Black Diamond Leopoldi Stingray by TheKingdomOfGriffia 188 - Tasmanian Devil by TheKingdomOfGriffia


NO.2

These two are gonna be a pair of punk rock girls yesss, I'm gonna make them cause all kinds of mischief. Maybe I can get them to convince Tobias to use his sharp claws for BAD DEEDS 8)))
Type of Bagbean: Common (but in an ideal situation, a mythical one for all the fluff! To match the design (or just long fur mutation, i dunno?)) based on some kind of large, fluffy dog/wolf/canine.
Bag or backpack: Backpack (I'll accept bag too though, just if I had to choose).
Colors: Mostly whites! Should contrast No.1 up there! She also needs blues and darker stripes to match the design she'll be based off of.
Gender: Female
Patterns/markings: I want her to be based off of this gal:
TOP DOG by TaiintySoup CLOSED Cuilleck $9/1000pt Designs by TaiintySoup(upper right corner, #3)
Her markings should resemble those of the original design, mostly white but with dark stripes in places, and areas of light blue with dotted patterns. I'm hoping she could keep the cheek stripe too, as Bagbeans tend to have a colourful marking below their eyes?
Hairstyle: Scruffy, sharp! Should stick up at the top, but also be quite long and shaggy, going down her neck and over her back.
Accessories: Spiked collar as well, but with the purple stripe colours. Should also be much bigger, rather than clamping around the neck alone, should either be loose hanging down the front, or should surround both the neck and hair. Whatever looks better! Also other punk-looking clothes, whatever suits best and also manages to make her look distinct from No.1 despite following a similar style.
Teeth yes or no: Top row front teeth!
Scars yes or no: Maybe a couple on her tail, and one on her shoulder?
Personality (basics):
Snarky and sarcastic, harsh like no.1, but much more active! She's faster and much quicker in movement and response (p good at come backs) and is always up to no good. Besties with no.1 but tends to ignore their problems, where no.1 does notice them. No.1 was originally nervous of no.2 as her animal is dog based, but slowly they've grown together and formed a strong bond. Both of them get into lots of trouble together, but no.1 is quicker to call no.2 out when things go too far. No.2 seems to be less mature in that sense.
Existing Beans with colours/designs that are close to what I'd like for them/could provide inspiration for:
383 - Banded Seakron by TheKingdomOfGriffia 130 - Kirin by TheKingdomOfGriffia 205 - Weeping Willow by TheKingdomOfGriffia 077 - Werewolf by TheKingdomOfGriffia 201 - Nidhogg by TheKingdomOfGriffia 116 - Ringtailed Lemur by TheKingdomOfGriffia


I might add more to this list later!

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Here's my lil base so I can copy paste easily:
Type of Bagbean:
Bag or backpack:
Colors:
Gender:
Patterns/markings:
Hairstyle:
Acessories:
Teeth yes or no:
Scars yes or no:
Personality (basics):
Existing Beans with colours/designs that are close to what I'd like for them/could provide inspiration for:
It scares me that species characters you make your character friends with could be traded at a moment's notice. I've been sat here wondering whether it's even worth making friends between characters, when there's no guarantee that the other character won't soon belong to someone else, with a different personality, and a different story which can't be mixed with yours...

I think, hey, if I can't feel secure in writing stories involving other people's species characters interacting with mine, then maybe I should try to get another (few) characters for myself and then I know I won't trade them without a good reason? But it would take so much work/money, and essentially I'm setting up tasks for myself that I don't even need to complete, things that I do because I feel obligated to do in order to take part, but I'm not taking part, am I? These are all things I could do with characters I make myself, and have full control over, which I am already doing!!! And I care about those characters much more than my species characters!

So do I stick my leg out into the community, hoping it doesn't get run over by a bus? Do I work my ass off to get multiple characters, just in order to create a stack of additional chores for myself? Or do I just forget about the whole species thing altogether, and try to ignore it? I don't know... This isn't as fun as I initially thought it would be...

Just some honest thoughts.
Name: Tobias
Nickname/s: Toby
ID: #206
Owner: TaiintySoup
Gender: Male (he/him or they/them pronouns)
Age: 23 (young and naive, still learning)
Height:  55cm
Species: Bagbean
Type: Common (Wolverine)
Bag type: Side strap bag (normal)
Mutations: Long claws

LVL: 0
Magic path: Not ready
Weapon of choice: Not ready
Proficiency: ???

City of origin: Cannelini (Snowy City Bean)
Occupation: ???
Political status: Commoner

Personality:
Tobias, despite the rough and tough appearance, is in fact a rather cowardly and hopeless Bean. As a kid, they might accidentally hurt others with their long claws, which made them feel very bad. The more they retracted themself from physical contact and the more nervous they became, the more they were seen as a coward in the public's eye.

During their identity trial, they discovered Wolverines in the wild. Such ferocious, fearless creatures, who aren't scared to use their massive claws. Tobias took inspiration from the animal, and began to adopt its appearance in order to make themself look tougher and more brave.

Though being like a Wolverine gives them confidence, they are still a little awkward to socialise with. They might try to put up a gruff voice and sound commanding, and try to look like they know what they're doing, but it's deadeningly obvious that they're struggling. The sweating and voice cracking gives away all too much.

Maybe a kind friend would be able to give this Bean the courage they need to keep going, however if they're not careful, Tobias might end up a little full of himself.

Creation information: Original pre-made design
Designer: griffsnuff (redesign by TaiintySoup)
Former owners: celesse Lord-Clu Kanraz 




STATS



SKILL STATUS

HP: 10
Attack:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff  Pixel bean by griffsnuff  Pixel bean by griffsnuff  Pixel bean by griffsnuff  Pixel bean by griffsnuff  Pixel bean by griffsnuff
Speed:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff
Stealth:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff  Pixel bean by griffsnuff
Defense:  Pixel bean by griffsnuff


WEAPON STATUS

CHAKRA STATUS

MAGIC STATUS

ELEMENT




POLITICAL STATUS


Pea by griffsnuff 
CURRENT PEAS: 198

0 Peas = Peasant
100 Peas = Commoner (Approved - comments.deviantart.com/1/6310… )
300 Peas = Baron
500 Peas = Duke/dutchess
1000+ Peas = Royal



INVENTORY


Beans 
Event bean by griffsnuffx14
Money bean by griffsnuffx22
Glowbean by griffsnuffx01
Kindness Seed by griffsnuffx02

Keychains

Potions
Body dye potion by griffsnuffx01

Magic items

Diplomas

Certificates

Trophies

Ribbons




TIME TREE


Time beans = None
Watering counter = None
Tree status = None
Tree art count = None



RELATIONSHIPS


Soulmate
None

Friends
#500 Royal Event BB - 1 year Anniversary  Mascot by griffsnuff My Maze TrackerName: Maze
Nickname/s: Depends on whoever they're 'being' at the moment!
ID:#500
Owner: TaiintySoup (but really, everyone!!!)
Gender: Non-binary/Gender-fluid/etc (they're in their middle-place)(Any pronouns)
Age: Unknown
Height:  45cm (so smol!!!)
Species: Bagbean
Type: Event
Bag type: Side-bag
Mutations: None! (Though they seem to pop up unexplainably when switching personalities)
LVL: 0
Magic path: Not ready
Weapon of choice: ?
proficiency: ?
City of origin: Unknown
Occupation: The everybean! They can be anyone, they can be everyone! But today, they're not sure who to be...
Political status: Royal
Personality:
Indecisive yet undeniably cheery. Almost annoyingly so. They talk to anyone and everyone they meet, hoping to get an idea of who to be next, but in their 'art-block' like c

Name: Maze
Owner: TaiintySoup (actually everyone haha)
Though Tobias is quite the tough customer, usually putting up an annoyed face whenever Maze comes near, Maze has accidentally associated him with being their go-to indecisive buddy. Maze tends to turn up to ask Tobias for ideas whenever they're feeling indecisive, much to Tobias's dismay. Though Tobias is usually grumpy near Maze, Maze can't help but notice when he's feeling down and they're determined to dig down into his problems and help. Often though, this just comes off as annoying to Tobias, unfortunately. Still, Maze is one of the few friends that Tobias has, so he doesn't ever push them away forcefully.
Art with this Bean and Tobias:
Maze's Phases by TaiintySoup

Louis/ Lou Ref (royal statue to be approved) by Faky-bean
Name: Louis (Lou)
Owner: StarFaky/Faky-bean
Sharp buddies! Though Tobias isn't incredibly keen on Lou's tendency to prank friends, Lou is a normally quite chill Bean, who's quite accepting of Tobias despite his sharp dangerous claws and odd personality. Despite this, Tobias still needs to learn how to trust Lou, as Tobias is quite suspicious and untrusting of him right now. It's something to be worked on!
Art with this Bean and Tobias:
Fun ride  (1-5) by Faky-bean DTA - Fornlee - WELCOME HOME (video) by Faky-bean

Trash - Refrencesheet by SoundOfTheCrocodile
Name: Trash
Owner: SoundOfTheCrocodile
Trash, being the very chilled out, nonchalant bean he is, has no real fear or concern over Tobias. Though this made initial interractions between the two somewhat odd and awkward, Toby eventually settled and began to realise that he was able to act more himself around the croco bean. Trash is probably the only person that Tobias willingly shows his more nervous, confidence-lacking side to. If he can't be on his own, Tobias is likely to go to Trash in order to cool down and relax.
Art with this Bean and Tobias:
Untitled by SoundOfTheCrocodile UniversalTrash5783984 by TaiintySoup Bad Boys by aestheticbeans

227 - Silver Fox by TheKingdomOfGriffia
Name: Tobias (Silver)
Owner: PrideAlchemist7
A normally unlikely pair of friends, if not for the fact that they share the same name. The two, in order to avoid confusion, often refer to eachother by different nicknames; Silver for this Tobias (due to their animal being a silver fox) and Wolve for (my) Tobias (because their animal is a wolverine). Since Silver is quite a timid, nervous Bagbean, perhaps Wolve saw a little of himself in them, creating an oddly responsible feeling. In public situations, Wolve tries to keep up his gruff voice and attitude, attempting to make himself even tougher for the both of them, but this can tire him out fast. If ever Wolve manages to snap and lose his composure, Silver is very understanding, encouraging Wolve to relax and feel more confident being together as a team, rather than trying to do the work for both of them.
Art with this Bean and Tobias:
None so far!

Allies
None so far

Companions
#21 by Kirwick
Name: [Unknown]
Species: Whap
Approval Comment: comments.deviantart.com/1/6496…
Character and relation is currently WIP

Magic Familiar
None

Others (???)
Pead on the run by griffsnuff
Pead x01
Details - Sleepy, lax, screechy. It is docile and snoozy, but if you poke it too much it WILL nip. Be careful!!!



TRIALS


Identity trial Not finished (Step 1 complete)
Step 1 - New Beginnings (Tobias) by TaiintySoup

Builder trial Not finished
Discovery trial Not finished
Lesser Magic trial Not finished
Advanced magic trial Not finished
Occupation trial Not finished
Market trial Not finished
Lovebean hatching trial Not finished
Soulmate trial Not finished
Allies trial Not finished


TRAINING

Chakra training Not finished
Skill training Not finished
Weapon training Not finished
Mag point training Not finished
Elemental training Not finished

CLASSES

Smelting class Not finished
Bottle making class Not finished
Potion making class Not finished
Egg hatching class Not finished
Cooking class Not finished
Herbalism class Not finished
Magic jewling class Not finished



ART
Fish Kish by TaiintySoupStep 1 - New Beginnings (Tobias) by TaiintySoup UniversalTrash5783984 by TaiintySoup Tobias Expression Terror (Carnival) by TaiintySoupTobias Ref Sheet (Redesign) by TaiintySoup Pop a Bean Balloon - Tobias by TaiintySoupHelp the Nature - Tobias (Earth Day, Carnival) by TaiintySoupTobias Ref Sheet - Redesign+Berserk Form by TaiintySoupMaze's Phases by TaiintySoup



ART BY OTHERS
206 - Wolverine by TheKingdomOfGriffia :Com: Bean Boys by GQuin Let Me Love You by SoundOfTheCrocodile T: Aggressive Smol by acember Beans in Love by TalonEX Funny Mirror House (25/25) by BeanFreeze Mm By Viirlii by TaiintySoup JD130 by LionMushrooms Boom goes the pienamite (DTA) by LionMushrooms Fun ride  (1-5) by Faky-bean Bad Boys by aestheticbeans




LITERATURE
None so far!



DESIGN CHANGE APPROVAL COMMENTS
First Design Change ( fav.me/db67stx ) - comments.deviantart.com/1/6310…
Second Design Change (Starbeans+Skullbean fav.me/dbcftie ) - comments.deviantart.com/1/6310…
Second Design Change (Dyebean fav.me/dbcftie ) - comments.deviantart.com/1/6310…
I have a lot of peanuts. Too many peanuts. Time to start tracking them.

Artwork that has NOT been converted:

Nervous! by TaiintySoup+1 IT'S NOT UNUSUAL (Silly Dance Game) by TaiintySoup+16 Mod Mess - Clemmy (Carnival) by TaiintySoup+3 Need for Seed by TaiintySoup+2 Maze's Phases by TaiintySoup+8 BagBean P2U Ref Base! by TaiintySoup+1


Artwork that HAS been converted:

AnoTHER by TaiintySoupDTA Run Cycle (sketch) by TaiintySoupDTA Entry - Leopard Gecko Bagbean by TaiintySoup Let's Crack The Case | Bagbean DTA Entry by TaiintySoupStep 1 - New beginnings by TaiintySoup Lost Something? by TaiintySoup Mean Bean by TaiintySoup Small Julian SketchDump by TaiintySoup

Gift Artwork that DOESN'T count for peas:

Camera Shy by TaiintySoup Final Piece by TaiintySoup Bagbeans Icon Entry!! by TaiintySoup


Peanut/PMB counter:

Peanut by griffsnuff x 30
Peanut Money bean by griffsnuff x 05

PMBs BELOW HAVE BEEN SPENT!!
Peanut Money bean by griffsnuff x 0

RILEY

And then Timezone happened by TaiintySoup


Current Wyn Count:

Wyn by Wyngrew = 19


Art:

And then Timezone happened by TaiintySoup 1,000,000% Ready to Argue by TaiintySoup You're an Idiot by TaiintySoup Experimentational Wyngro Stuff by TaiintySoup


Gifted Art:

Go back to your tree by RoyleiuPaintie MORE FRIENDS!!! by Snivine444 agender babs by banana-pajamas


Current Upgrades:

+Hair tuft
+Cheek fur
+1 Accessory (Shoelace)
+Pawpads


Stickers:

Wyngro Sticker - Shroom Hunt by Wyngrew

Bio:

Name: Riley (Or Rood as a nickname. Not that they like being called that xD)
--->Gender: Agender (they/them pronouns) ((Important, please don't misgender them ;;A;; ))<---
Biological Sex: Female (I ain't confirming whether this is the same in canon Timezone or not I just need one or the other for Wyngro TTmTT;; )

Type: Standard
Creation: MYO Wyngro
Hatch Location: The Nook

If you haven't seen any of Timezone, here is a short summary of their personality:

Riley is a rather aggressive child. They are quite antisocial, and would prefer not to interact with anyone. They will get into arguments VERY easily though. Despite all this, they can startle fairly easily. Often they run into dangerous/bad situations without thinking, getting screwed over as a result. They also hate physical contact, and will naturally move away from anyone who tries to touch them.

They tend to spend most of their time by themself. They enjoy design, focusing on colours and pattern in accessories and jewellery. They also enjoy going on walks by themself, often doing it when/where they shouldn't be (in Wynsiph's case, past curfew).

Friends/Relations:

Unknown if they have any currently, but they did scream at Sheke once. That probably counts, right?
Also in a bitter rivalry/friendship with Lucy, but only because Lucy won't leave them alone.


LUCY

Completing the Duo by TaiintySoup

Current Wyn Count:

Wyn by Wyngrew = 17

Art:

Completing the Duo by TaiintySoup You're an Idiot by TaiintySoup Experimentational Wyngro Stuff by TaiintySoup


Gifted Art:

MORE FRIENDS!!! by Snivine444 Gifts for the season!! by VHS-DREAM tan babies by banana-pajamas


Current Upgrades:

+Hair tuft
+Cheek Fluff.
+1 Accessory (Hair Clip)


Stickers:

Wyngro Sticker - Gold Star Approval by Wyngrew Wyngro Sticker - Shroom Hunt by Wyngrew


Bio:

Name: Lucy
Biological Sex: Female
Gender: Female
Type: Standard
Creation: MYO Wyngro
Hatch Location: The Nook

If you haven't seen any of Timezone already, here is a short summary of her personality:

Small and sly, Lucy often doesn't bother to hide her rather narcissistic personality, walking around and doing what she pleases. She commonly practices thievery, stealing food most of all, she'll eat pretty much anything she can get her hands (claws?) on. She spends a lot of time getting on Riley's nerves.


Friends/Relations:

Bugs Riley often, in a slight rivalry/friendship with them.
Has made some passing friends but nothing solid. She makes passing enemies too when she steals peoples' stuff.


TAMO

Tamo is Evolving by TaiintySoup

Current Wyn Count:

Wyn by Wyngrew = 58


Art:

Tamo Wyngling by TaiintySoup Some Wyngro Things by TaiintySoup Sleep Squad by TaiintySoup Where is my friend? by TaiintySoup Tamo is Evolving by TaiintySoup Still Just an Angry Baby by TaiintySoup


Gifted Art:

Wyngling Bunch by MYSTlQUE Spooky Stories by MurattiCat Tamo by Kannarith Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark by NightTheKittyKat You're bigger then I thought by Wendy-Cloud-Dragon


Current Upgrades:

+1 Accessory (Bowtie)
+Tiny Horn (Nose)
+Grew Up (Quad)


Stickers:

Wyngro Sticker - Approved by Wyngrew Wyngro Sticker - Growing Up Quad by Wyngrew Wyngro Sticker - Gift Giving by Wyngrew


Bio:

Name: Tamo
Biological Sex: Male
Type: Standard
Creation: MYO Wyngro
Hatch Location: The Nook

I'll develop his personality over time, but right now this is what I have:
-Quite slow and lazy.
-Laid back, speaks slowly.
-Not overly friendly, a bit snarky really.
-When he is active, he has surprising muscle power. He doesn't go out of his way to bully anyone, but I wouldn't recommend trying to anger him.
-Enjoys watching other Wyngrew, snoozing, and exercising his muscles on innocent pebbles.
-Doesn't like loud things, be that objects or other Wyngrew.


Friends/Relations:

Made a friendship with Neve as a child, though they haven't been in contact much recently.
Same for Nixon, a regular napping buddy.
Honestly Tamo is chill with anyone as long as u don't mind him sleeping through everything. Snooze buddies are the best.


TOTAL WYN COUNT:

Wyn by Wyngrew = 93

WARNING – THIS IS A HARSH RANT! IF YOU ARE A LARGE PART OF THE SPECIES COMMUNITY, OR TAKE THIS STUFF SENSITIVELY, YOU PROBABLY WON’T WANT TO READ ON. I DON’T WANT TO MAKE ANY ENEMIES, I SIMPLY WANT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER. I DON’T INTEND TO TAKE SPECIES AWAY FROM ANYONE, JUST TO DISPLAY THEM IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT, AND MAYBE INTRODUCE NEW IDEAS TO PEOPLE. ONCE AGAIN, READ ON AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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Hello watchers, non-watchers, anyone and everyone! I am Soup (if you didn’t already know), and I want to discuss, today, my thoughts on species and the species community as a whole. Formality aside, that warning up there is true and I do urge you to take its advice if you really think you won’t take this well. I’m not trying to hurt anyone personally, these are the thoughts that have been building up inside of me for the past couple years of my life (which I’ve been venting to my friend to get rid of, for the most part), and it’s probably going to get a little gritty and stingy. If you want to read on anyway then power to you, I’m not as strong willed as you are 8w8;;; And if you do, please read right through to the end, don’t comment early. There is a lot of negative stuff to get through but there are positives near the end, just stick around basically. And sorry if I don’t reply to (many) comments…

I’m going to preface this by saying that, unlike my other ‘thoughts on’ journals, I’ve got quite a lot to say about this particular subject so I’m going to be structuring this like an essay. I’m by no means the best at structuring my sentences so sorry if it’s a little messy and hard to understand, but this is probably the best way to organise it that I know of, so yeah… I’ll need the practice anyway, I didn’t realise I’d still be getting essay assignments after coming to art college. Just another warning, this is going to be a long, LONG read, so you might want to get some tea or some music in the background. Get pillows and quilts, get comfortable. You’ll be here for a while.

So, let’s start with the question. What are my thoughts on the species community here on deviantArt, and why do I feel this way? What conclusion do I draw from this personally?

First of all, I feel that deviantArt is not the right website for this kind of community. Let’s get right into the thick of this. What does the species community centre around? Two things; money, and popularity. These two things play off of each other nicely – The more popular the species gets, the more money the designer earns, the more they want to invest into the species, the more popular the species gets, and so on. This system is flawed however, in a very major way – the price never stops climbing, reaching higher and higher amounts very quickly. “But Soup!” I hear you say, “that’s a shallow opinion of you to make. You should know well that undercharging for your work perpetuates and encourages the idea that art is worth very little, it’s a big reason why the starving artist is a thing! Are you simply jealous?” Well my dear reader, it’s actually for a few other reasons, which is why I bring deviantArt as a website up in relation to this topic.

DeviantArt contains the wrong target market: Young teenagers. People seem to forget this a lot – this websites userbase is, for the vast majority, kids. So what do high prices have to do with this? Remember how I mentioned popularity a moment ago? The kids drive and are driven by the popularity. You see, as the worth of a species increases, the amount of people who are able to afford the designs narrow into a specific group – adults (and kids with rich parents?). But that does not mean that the species popularity narrows to being adult-exclusive too. In fact, the higher the price reaches, the more adults with money pay for them, the more the entire userbase sees the designs going for, the higher the worth of the species in their eyes becomes (that’s to both kids and adults). You never see any kid (or adult) pining desperately to become the owner of a Cupcat, or a Wigglyhoozit, or a whatever species you’ve never heard of on this site (by this I mean unknown closed species that have very little following! Just in case of misunderstanding 8w8;; these names were made up on the spot). They pine rather for Mantibabs, Grem2s, Bagbeans, Weavers, CCCats, the list goes on. See a theme here? These are the species that go for the most money. These species are valued as having much higher worth by kids, because they see adults paying ludicrous amounts for them. “So what?” you might be saying, “they’re allowed to want what they see as highly valued, isn’t that the point?” I agree, however…

These kids are not the target audience. Furthermore, the high worth of the species in these kids' eyes leads to desperation, doubt of self-worth, loss of great sums of money that either belonged to their parents or they worked their asses off for, for a long, long time. I’m not saying species owners are wrong for selling their designs at this price. But I am saying that the younger members of the community are not experienced enough to be aware of one thing:

It is not worth it. It’s in human nature to want what you can’t have, and value it much more greatly than it really is once you have it. Popular species are already placed on such a high pedestal, and are so ridiculously unattainable that it drives you to do nearly anything in order to get it. You’ll enter dozens of competitions and lose, making you question your self-worth. You’ll offer ridiculous amounts of work and prized possessions in order to get one in a trade. You’ll work for months, collecting tiny pieces of money at a time in order to blow it all the moment you get lucky enough and are fast enough to afford the autobuy price (which I know species creators say is not the price tag, but let’s be honest, it is). I myself even did this as a kid. My family doesn’t earn much to begin with, so I set out on my own to earn up about $120 over the course of a few months, and the moment I had the chance I spent it all on a prized Weaver design (back when that was the standard autobuy price for one). And what did I do with it afterwards?

Nothing. I did fuck all. Well, that’s partially untrue. I tried to use it. I drew a couple things, I tried to get into a ship with another person’s Weaver (which they eventually traded away as is what happens with most species designs that don’t ‘click’ (AKA, they couldn’t be bothered to work with it to make it a fun and interesting character for themselves, preferring to get lucky)), I even opened an “Ask Aren!” trying my very best to get invested in this character. And slowly it dawned on me – I was putting in all this work for something I didn’t even care about. This character, in my eyes, had no use or value to me whatsoever. It just looked pretty. I’d spent months, MONTHS saving up every penny I could, earning up as much as is needed to buy a portable games console if I really wanted, and I spent it on a useless trophy. They were bragging rights. A way of saying “look, I spent all my money, now I have the cool thing! Look at my cool thing!” About a year later, I traded the design away. I’d say it sucks that I traded, because now I have something I can’t resell to get back the money I lost, but it’s been a long time and I don’t really care so much about it anymore. It was a lesson to me, even though I refused to accept it at first.

In fact, I did it again a year or so later. Not with money this time, but with hard, painful work. The Leloko DTA, the one that I traded away only recently, too. I did an all-nighter, pushing myself to my extremes, animating so much in such a short space of time… And I won. I did get a good experience out of this, I can say. The lesson that hard work and effort often pays off, and that I am able to do incredible things if I push myself. But once again, there were negatives: I couldn’t help but feel ridiculously guilty – I couldn’t stop thinking about all the people who also put their heart and soul into winning that design, creating completely different personalities and stories for it, so many kinds of art, gorgeous things, incredible things, and they were all brushed aside. I held onto the design for a long, long time, always questioning myself. I would think “I don’t deserve to have this, I don’t even use them,” “but how could I ever let them go, they’re a milestone in my life now,” and “do people spite me because I won them? There is definitely a better home for them out there…” Of course, I finally let go of them in the end with a lot of pushing. It’s for the best. Owning them only made me anxious…

I’m getting a little off topic, so let’s pull this back. In short summary so far, I think that deviantArt holds the wrong target audience for species as a concept (young teenagers) and I feel that the actual act of owning a design is not worth it, so what else can I expand on? How about…

Species designs are really not as incredible as they’re held up to be. Not in terms of usage this time, but in terms of their literal design. I understand that there is some very rare species out there which vary their designs a lot and try to make every member as unique as possible (I’m looking at you, Lantern Dragons, good on you), but for the most part, species designs are essentially the exact same design with some variation that doesn’t affect the overall physical appearance of each member. I’m not saying that this is inherently bad, there is good and bad to everything. For example, the fact that species designs often look the same physically means that the designers are able to hone in on and very quickly improve their skills in colour and pattern design, creating some truly stunning aesthetics. I myself even learned a lot about design from taking part in the adoptables/species community, which has helped me later in life to design other things, non-species related. However the attitude surrounding the value of species designs is one that often irritates me, especially this one statement – ‘People in the industry are paid hundreds and thousands of dollars for good character designs, so these designs should be valued the same.’ I’m not saying this statement is totally wrong, good character design is a very valuable thing and worth a lot of money for the right design, however there’s a difference. Character designs made for TV shows, movies, books, comics and etc are designed for a very important and specific purpose – they are meant to be very varied, both in physical design and in colour and pattern design, as well as fit to the character’s personality, their role in the story/work, include details which affect parts of the story or are affected BY the story, and are able to be changed when needed, they’re meant to fit exactly to whatever medium they are made for – simple designs for animation, complex for big pieces of art, drawn in a style that can be reproduced or played with, the list of specifics goes on. What do species designs need to do? They need to look similar to the concept design, and look pretty. They don’t even need to vary physically. They could just be recolours. Personality and story isn’t a factor, as the owners who buy them should be able to create all that stuff for them after they own the design (which from personal experience is a lot harder to accomplish than having a personality before the design is made). To say that they should cost the same amount as industry professional made designs, or possibly more, is like saying that your biscuits you made using the same recipe and the same cookie cutter, with some slight differences in the way the icing looks, should cost the same as biscuits that were each hand crafted individually, moulded, with intricate one-of-a-kind icing patterns and customisation of words or icing pictures for the buyer. I can see the backing of your argument, I can tell that you have a lot of experience in the field of design and your ability should be valued, but I don’t see how the basic concept of a species design should have anything to do with the worth of an industry-made design, they’re like two very different things. The closest exception I can draw between species and real designs from a real show would be MLP, which really only varies the characters’ colours and hair designs. But once again, that’s for a very real purpose – these characters are designed to be made into toys. It would cost the company a ridiculous amount of money to be able to mass produce such a wide array of varying different toy models, so the characters are designed whilst keeping in mind that they should be able to fit to the same model, and therefore have very similar anatomy. You might notice that (most of) the only characters who get unique body types are usually detestable, often ugly, petty antagonist characters. Because nobody expects to sell any toys of them.

Another point I’d like to make before I forget is that, personally, I think that species have exploded far too much to the point of taking over a lot of deviantArt’s… Er, culture? Basically what I’m trying to say is it’s spread like kudzu, and taken over the vast majority of the adoptable community as a whole. Species are not a bad idea, and they can be fun, but that doesn’t mean we should drop everything else. Remember when wolves were re-introduced into Yellowstone and they helped the ecosystem recover and begin to thrive? Wow, that was great. You know, they balanced out the system so well, why don’t we add another 10,000 wolves to the park! That can only do it good, right? Too much of a good thing does exist. The addition of species to the adoptable community was a good and fresh way to introduce a whole new element to the community, an almost collectable sort of feeling. It added new appeal to the market. And then everyone saw how well they were doing, and hopped on the bandwagon. And I mean everyone did. I did it. You’ve probably done it too. Most species get forgotten, but that doesn’t mean that the ones that do exist take up little space. In fact, it’s pretty rare to find unique one-of-a-kind designs in the market now, because people don’t hold value in them. The ironic thing is that they are the most well thought out and most valuable designs there are in the community. Everything about them has been thought out uniquely, and not come as a result of copying an already existing design and modifying it. They are made completely from scratch, and yet they are forgotten and ignored so, so easily. I suppose they’re just not as ‘collectable,’ ‘well-known’ or ‘community-driven,’ but I don’t suppose that’s the point of a character design either. Perhaps I’m just being a grumpy old whiner. Essentially, the value of one-off designs will always be seen as lesser to species designs until people start looking and thinking ahead. I think it’s about time you think about whether you’ll get good use out of that design before buying it, instead of just doing it to join the fad. I’m not saying species designs are useless in that sense either, just by the by, if you enjoy taking part in that community and have the funds for it then there’s absolutely no shame in enjoying that. I personally am not very invested in that sort of thing so it didn’t work out for me (I suffer from high functioning autism and as a result I’m very socially anxious, meaning taking part in almost any social/community based activity can be quite stressful. It’s just not my cup of tea).

So do I think that everything about species culture is bad? No, not necessarily. I may no longer have interest in owning species designs, but that does not mean they are all bad. I think a big thing that drives species culture is the community it gathers. I see a lot of people very happy to chat about species together, trade and swap them back and forth, create stories and art and roleplay together. I think that looks wonderful (if maybe a little bit glorified), and I’m glad that there are people unlike me that do find fun in owning these designs, together. The main problem that I find with this is of course, the price tag. In order to get into this community, you need to be either incredibly lucky or have a lot of money to spend. It’s like paying $500 for a Webkinz plush. So, the best way to get into that crowd if you don’t have either of those things is just to make art for other people, which doesn’t look too fun tbh, going out of your way to get into the crowd even though you’re still technically an outsider. All luck to you if that’s what you’re doing right now, or plan to do. Just think it through before you get too invested.

Following on from this point, species which have a lot of things set up for you to do with your design once you own it is a very good thing in the community too. It’s fun, heck, even I’m interested. This is why I’m still interested in Bagbeans (the, as of now, only closed species I really care about), because there are tasks which can be completed without having to involve yourself with other people, there’s always competitions going on and events, you earn things for your hard work in the group (which includes currency, upgrades, even the chance to win MYOs or new designs, and more), the community is huge and active and the people who manage the species care a lot about it and you don’t even have to do the tasks if you don’t want to. But the best thing about this species, I find, is that it is attainable by both kids (non-spenders) and adults (spenders). There are two DTAs every month, there are competitions where the prizes are often custom designs, you have the chance to be GIFTED MYO slots if you’re active in the community, and the ability to draw Bagbean related art for events and earn money beans (even if you don’t own a Bagbean), which you can eventually save up to pay for a Bagbean, among other things. Yes, there are still designs that go up for auction and flat sale, fetching ridiculously high prices. However, these designs are only paid for by people who are WILLING to pay for them, who have the funds for it and are happy to. It’s a lot of work for poor Griffsnuff, gotta say, but this system means that nearly everyone is accommodated for. I feel like if more groups like this were made it might restore a little bit of my faith in the species community xD but honestly, if you’re going to do it then organise a group of people for it who can all make designs, you don’t want to overwork yourself.

So, we’re a good 3000 words into this essay, and I’ve been sitting here writing this so long that I started to starve and get light headed, so I think I should probably draw my conclusion from all this.

Firstly, what do I think of the species community and why? I feel personally, that at this stage, the species community is actually rather toxic. Nobody is brave enough to step up and say hey, actually, maybe this isn’t as great as we make it out to be. I’m not trying to say that I’m some hero for saying this, but honestly I didn’t think I’d ever actually share this opinion. I felt particularly driven to rant about it today, and I’ve written so much now, I suppose there’s no going back. I feel this way about species and the community around it because I constantly see examples of it all around me, all the time, so much ignorance... I tend to keep these thoughts to myself. Today just happened to be the day I decided to run into a hot coal fire. We’ll see how burnt and crisp I come out the other end.

So, what does this all mean? When I step back, I think it means that we need to start thinking things through more deeply, try to tone down the impulsiveness and ignorance. Perhaps even a simple warning of “don’t feel worked up if you can’t afford the species, it’s meant for an older audience” in the description of auction deviations would help, just a little (though there’s probably a better way to word it, my brain is beginning to fail me). We should make species communities more open and helpful, more like real businesses with support communities that can help ease younger members into knowing more about the ins and outs of species, and how it really functions in the bigger picture (instead of leaving them to dedicate large portions of their younger art life to trying to attain this mystical, magical trophy object they’ll never really need). Or maybe one day, we’ll have websites specifically for species communities, rather than it being hosted exclusively on deviantArt with its young userbase.

Finally, I’d like to end by saying that the community CAN get better. There’s already examples here on the website of good ways to accommodate for most audiences, and the idea of species isn’t a completely bad thing when used in moderation and used well. I think that overall, things just got out of hand. I don’t know if this will ever change, if this journal will ever make a difference to anything or be just be glossed over, or what the future holds for species. But I gave by 2,289,894,769 cents.

If you made it all the way to the end, then Jesus fucking Christ man you need to lie down right now, get some water, look outside at the sky for a while, I know I’m going to need to. Black text lines on a bright white background have been burnt into the back of my retinas by this point.

And fun fact: This essay was approximately 2400 words longer than the one I was actually meant to be writing for class. If that’s not procrastination at its finest then I don’t know what is.

CLOSED $6 Traditional Sketches

Sun Feb 19, 2017, 12:09 PM
Yo since I'm in the mood I wanted to take a couple real cheap traditional sketch commissions. Usually my sketch comms cost about $10 each. These ones will cost $6 each, and will probably be sliiiightly simple but I'll be making them all nice as I usually tend to, add extra shading and such. Traditional sketching feels p good <3

The finished products will come out looking somewhat like these:
New Critter in Town by TaiintySoup Mean Bean by TaiintySoup Fusion is Hecka Fun by TaiintySoup
(On blank paper, of course xD)

I can draw:
-Humans
-Animals/Creatures
-Anthros/Furries
-Species (Bagbeans, Grems, ect ect)
-Gore(candy)/Swearing

I'm not so great with plants or mechanical things but if you wanna challenge me then go ahead. My style is quite cartoony and I love playing with expressions and proportions so expect that your character might come out a lil more cartoony and off model. Not always the case though. Please don't ask for NSFW art, and bare in mind I can't make additional corrections with traditional art without potentially messing it up.

Feel free to be as open or as specific as you want when ordering. You can use this form if you want but you don't have to:
Character(s):
Scene/Posing/Actions:
Any Extra Notes:

(Filled example:
Character(s): Number 3 from here - CLOSED Cuilleck $9/1000pt Designs. Some more art of her here to get idea of character if you wish - TOP DOG
Scene/Posing/Actions: Running ferociously, tongue lolling out.
Any Extra Notes:  Preferably facing the left, so she fits into the place on my profile I've made for her.)

I'm taking about 3 slots. If I feel like doing more then I'll open more and update the journal. I take both paypal ($6) and points (600pts). Additional characters are $5 (500pts) each. I'll try to get these done p fast.

SLOTS:
1 - StarFaky (PAID)
2 - Lei-Leiurus (PAID)
3 - LionMushrooms (PAID)

Comment below and/or note to claim a slot

CLOSED Bagbean Swap (Trade)

Wed Feb 15, 2017, 2:53 PM
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

I've traded this Bean with Kanraz!!


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yo, so after giving it a lot of thought, I've decided I want to trade my Bagbean away. Bagbeans are the only species I'm still interested in, so I'm only accepting swaps for this bean.

The bean in question is this one - Helleborus Flower:
145 - Helleborus by TheKingdomOfGriffia

I put a lot of thought and love into this character, even going as far as to restructure their physical anatomy to help with character identification. The reason I'm trading them away is because I fitted their design to accommodate a specific personality, one of which I realised is VERY similar to the personality of a character I already own and care for MUCH MORE, so this character got ignored. You can change things about their character if you want, develop them and such, I just hope that whoever owns them next is able to work with their personality and create something better from it than I did.

You can find all their art and peas here:
Julian Bagbean TrackerDon't mind this journal ;;w;; just the tracker for my Bagbean, Julian!
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Name:
Julian
Nickname/s: ---
ID: #145
Owner: TaiintySoup
Gender: Male (he/him)
Age: 20
Height: 80cm (2'7")
Species: Bagbean
Type: Floral (Helleborus Flower)
Bag type: Backpack
Mutations: None
Identity status: Trial is not done
Farming: Trial is not done
Occupation: Trial is not done
Market status:Trial is not done
Lesser agic trial: Trial is not done
- Class choice:
- Status of trial:
Advanced farming: Trial is not done
Advanced magic trial: Trial is not done
World discoveries:
- Flora:
- Ancient location:
- Secret hole of:
City of origin: Cities are not done
Political status: Peasant
Personality:

He currently has 53 peas, some art, and an animated piece.

This Bagbean, named Julian, is meant to be a very aggressive and rather wild character, not following the norms of Bagbean culture, with quite a rebellious outlook on life. As I said, you can change this if you want, I just thought that I should put this here, as it was meant to go with his design since before the visual design even existed (Julian was custom ordered).

BAGBEAN FOR BAGBEAN SWAPS ONLY


Things I like:
  • SIMPLE designs, good for animation.
  • Recognisable, unique designs, with character.
  • I like most colour schemes, themes and patterns. Just remember, I don't want anything too complicated.
Here's a few examples of the kinds of designs I like:
168 - Blue Footed Booby by TheKingdomOfGriffia 361 - Flying Saucer by TheKingdomOfGriffia 365 - Sock by TheKingdomOfGriffia 001 - Walrus by TheKingdomOfGriffia 212 - Ivy by TheKingdomOfGriffia 159 - Ink Cap Mushroom by TheKingdomOfGriffia
SIMPLE and full of CHARACTER!

I can be VERY picky, so don't feel discouraged if I give no response ;n; I will highlight/feature offers I'm considering. If you're unsure whether I'll like the design, show me it anyway, you never know. You can offer me through note if you don't want to comment.


CLOSED - Trading DTA Leloko

Fri Jan 27, 2017, 1:31 PM

They've been traded to Caliander



Hey, so I'm trying this again. It's been a while since I uploaded the journal about trading my Draped-In-Blue DTA Leloko (Flower Critter), and what I'm interested in has changed drastically too.

The design in question is this baby. They come with a HECK-TON of art. I can't sell them since I won them from the DTA:
{DTA} - Draped in blue (CLOSED) by PhloxeButt
Please see the old journal here for most of their art. There is actually more art of this character not on that journal that I haven't been able to find, as well as some more pieces from myself. There's a bit of a text wall so scroll down to find them:
Trading DTA Leloko (FlowerCritter) LF Grem/BagbeanTime to let the bby go ;;;m;;;
I was reluctant to do this for the longest time, I mean the LONGEST time, I got this bab more than a year ago now. When I think about trading them I deny the idea because I remember how much work and effort I put into winning them and developing their character, that huge struggle it took to win that DTA.
But then I remember I'm not going to do anything with this character 8n8 I have a hard time holding interest in animal characters and closed species, and especially with a character like this where there's rules surrounding what I can do with them, and it's hard to work with them because... Well, my most favourite thing to draw and work with is expressions, feeling. This character can't even open their mouth. The fact that their design is so complicated means I don't enjoy drawing/animating them normally either (I prefer simple designs). What I can do with them that I'd enjoy is severely limited... And what's more, I've felt incredibly guilty for not usi

Proof that I own this design is also linked on that journal.
I don't however have the fullsized unwatermarked version of the official art up there for some reason (I probably forgot to ask, I was p inexperienced with the adoptable community when I won) so you may have to ask Phloxebutt for the full size image if they still have it.

Here's one of the DTA entries by myself so that you can see what tail they have, since the DTA allowed you to create your own tail end on the design.
Flower Critter DTA Entry 1 by ThisAccountIsDead462

WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR:

I no longer have interest in virtually any deviantArt species, so I am no longer taking offers of them. I could go into more detail about this, trust me I have a lot to say, but that's a subject for another day... So instead, I'm interested in trading this design for these things:

1 - Artwork

    -It's very tricky to tempt me with art, as most things I can happily create myself. I'm least likely to accept these offers.
    -If you can draw humans, which don't have same-face syndrome, then you are of highest interest to me when offering art. My life practically revolves around my human characters, whereas my animal characters often collect dust in a forgotten folder.
    -Don't offer too much. I know what it's like to be overworked, it's not fun, and you will not be able to finish for months and months. You don't want that. I don't want that. Please be reasonable with what you're offering, as too much drives me away.
    -Please try to offer me interesting things. Instead of plain headshots or fullbodies, what about tiled patterns, or animated icons, or pixel art, or designs that could be printed onto shirts or badges, journal skins, etc. If you have YCHs, show them to me. Don't make me skim-read your offer.
    -Please provide examples, which is a given but still.

2 - Physical Items

    -I am incredibly interested in physical things that I can hold or use, as opposed to regular art. These offers are more likely to be accepted.
    -Please bare in mind that I live in the UK, so shipping costs might be high depending on where you are (I'll be asking you to pay for these costs). Higher priced shipping sometimes causes an additional charge when entering the UK as well, but I will deal with those charges.
    -I am interested in custom made plushies (can be animals, since human plushies are often a bit creepy looking).
    -I am interested in other crafted objects, for example sculptures, custom printed things (books, shirts, jigsaws, etc), art dolls, etc.
    -I am interested in Pokemon merch, including games, plushies, pokemon center merch, etc. More interested in newer things than older original merch.
    -I'm also interested in Steven Universe merch, and maybe FNAF merch (I feel shameful).
    -Other things? Gemstones (looking for fire opal especially, p rare), minky fabrics, lanyards, stickers, plush patterns, pillows (if you have something immensly soft and cuddly, i probably want it), cute usable stuff.
    -Fursuit things like paw gloves, tails, heads, etc just in general I love fursuiting stuff. Paw/etc gloves I'm most interested in.

Don't forget that you can mix and match offers. Don't be afraid to suggest something else along with these things either. Just be mindful of the following:

DO NOT OFFER ME THESE:

    -Closed species designs.
    -Any character designs, unless it's additional to your main offer. I may still deny taking them though if I accept.
    -Art slavery.
    -NSFW art.
    -A nice egg in this trying time.

You can note me offers if you don't want to comment. I'll feature comments that I'm interested in.


Commissions are CLOSED

Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:09 AM
I have a small batch of designs I have gathered over the years that I don't really want anymore, so I'm gonna put them here for offers. Most things are one-offs, some are species (not any v popular ones though, sorry). These will be pretty easy to get, I'm not tentative

The stash file with all the designs is here:

sta.sh/2195hm2vz208

Please refer to the star ratings.

I AM LOOKING FOR:
-Cash offers ($1 and up)
-Points offers (100pts and up)
-Art (especially if you can draw humans)
-Premade designs (Unlikely to accept, but might be fun)
-Physical merch you can mail me (Handmade crafts, Pokemon merch, SU merch, Lanyards/charms/things like that) if you're okay paying for postage.

DO NOT OFFER:
-Art slavery/tons of art pieces (too much makes me anxious, pushes me away)
-Under $1/100pts.
-Any species (unless it's popular (most interested in Bagbeans and Grems) though I have no idea why you'd want to trade them for my junk xD)

So yeah I know I'm not rly trading anything v valuable 8w8 but this is mostly for fun. Don't feel pressured to offer a lot.

PS: Some designs have extra art. If you offer on them and I accept, I'll go find the extra art for you.

Time to let the bby go ;;;m;;;

I was reluctant to do this for the longest time, I mean the LONGEST time, I got this bab more than a year ago now. When I think about trading them I deny the idea because I remember how much work and effort I put into winning them and developing their character, that huge struggle it took to win that DTA.

But then I remember I'm not going to do anything with this character 8n8 I have a hard time holding interest in animal characters and closed species, and especially with a character like this where there's rules surrounding what I can do with them, and it's hard to work with them because... Well, my most favourite thing to draw and work with is expressions, feeling. This character can't even open their mouth. The fact that their design is so complicated means I don't enjoy drawing/animating them normally either (I prefer simple designs). What I can do with them that I'd enjoy is severely limited... And what's more, I've felt incredibly guilty for not using them since so many people wanted this same design and put tons of effort towards winning it. I felt selfish, and I can't rly do this anymore ;n;

I am really thankful that I won the DTA back then, it was a very memorable experience for me 8w8 one that I won't be forgetting. That incredible struggle of trying to push out an AMV in just 2 days, the nervous wait, the final payoff that made all the hard work come through for me, what an amazing confidence boost 8vvv8 I just feel like this bab could be in much better hands now, owned by someone who does want to do things with them and work on them TTvTT

I'm not looking for anyone to feel sorry for me, I'm really just looking for a good home for this guy. You may keep his personality, name and story, or you may not, whatever works best for you ;;A;; just treat him a little better than I did.

This is the Leloko:
{DTA} - Draped in blue (CLOSED) by PhloxeButt

I don't actually have the fullsize non-watermarked version of the original art ;;A;; But here is proof that I won them and I am the owner:
DTA Winner - Draped in BlueHello everyone!!! SO with the help of my many lovely judges, i've been able to finally decide on a winner for my critter DTA! 

This dta had SO MANY strong entries!!! so strong in fact that i had been struggling so much with deciding on a winner. But with the help i had (which i appreciate SO MUCh thank you guys) there was an entry that completely won over my heart in the end. 
So congratulations to ThisAccountIsDead462 !!!
your entries really left me speechless. there was so much thought and effort put into this child and its animations that it was astounding. I am 100% in love with your entries and along with many of my judges we thought you really had a strong place in the dta. The effort i saw in your story, the input of critters as pets and their dangerous capabilities and characterization of this child. its innocence in not knowing the world outside, the adventure this child had and the first steps into an unkown place. the anim


The account ThisAccountIsDead462 is my old account, Taiinty. I changed the username as I didn't want people to think it was my main account TTvTT it's dead now. You can see the link to this account on it's front page.

All the art I made for this child for the DTA can be seen in the journal up there, along with some of the art of other entrants. There is a lot more art of this bab by other people too, all the entrants of the DTA back then. I'm pretty sure all of the pieces were kept in a folder in the old leloko group, but that group is deleted now ;;n;; So I unfortunately don't know the exact locations of every piece of art. I didn't find the time to go and save all of them TTmTT;;; I'm sure you'd be able to find most of them with a search "flowercritter DTA" though not everyone uses tags. I also have more art of them that I made myself but never posted, I will send them to you once they are traded.

I will put a few pieces here just to showcase a section of the amount of art this bab has though (also in case any of the original entrants are interested in trading for this bab):
Flower Critter DTA Entry 3 by ThisAccountIsDead462 dta - draped in blue by crowlets spirals - [dta] by al-kem-y DTA Flowercritter 02 by AriiKnave DTA: Survivor by DaffoDille [DTA] Draped in Blue by RaenCOMPLEX DTA Entry #1 - Cheeky by Will-O-Wisps Flower Girl {DTA} by earthcult Refresh [DTA Entry] by mute-owl A Peaceful Winter Will Come Again [DTA Entry 1] by Fleecee draped in blue entry 1 by bellpup goodbye by aevei DTA Flower Critter -Draped in Blue- by lostliest :Draped in Blue: Entry 01 by Roccoco-Co [DTA]: Vance doodles..! by feralynn Wannabe by vanilliah DTA: Cautious Crossing by DaffoDille
This isn't all their art but you get the idea!! There's a lot! Looking back on all this I rly feel like I don't deserve them haha 8w8;;;; hngn


What I am looking for:


So primarily I am wanting this bab to go to someone who will use them, but I don't really want to give them away for nothing ;;n;; Though the experience was invaluable, I worked incredibly hard to get this Leloko originally. I cannot accept money as I didn't pay money to get them, and I don't have interest in many closed species, but I am looking for two in particular:

-Grem2
-Bagbeans


These are the only two species I'm really interested in right now 8^8 I'm not rly interested in art or customs (unless it's customs of the two species above, unlikely though).

I'm not v interested in any other species, as the only thing I'd gain from them is the ability to trade for other species.... Which I'm doing rn. However if you think you could do a 3-way trade so that I end up with one of the two above, I'm totally okay with that!

I am also interested in physical objects btw!!! Things like plushies (INCREDIBLY INTERESTED in these), shirts, other types of merch for things like Steven Universe, Pokemon, or handmade crafts of my OCs. My OCs are very dear to me, physical merch of them I would die for (bare in mind, they're all humanoids, but some do have alternative animal/pokemon forms if you work better with that).

If comments become too clogged up with offers of things I don't want then I'll start hiding comments to keep things neat ;A; Otherwise I'll just be highlighting things that I'm interested in. There won't really be a closing time for this, just whenever I find an offer I want, be that today, tomorrow, or in the next year. I'll probably update this journal every so often if I can't find an offer ;n;

As a side note, I'm not sure whether you're allowed to change the tail on this design or not when traded. I know that a lot of people entered this DTA and gave them a different tail design, and might prefer that one to the one I gave them. Best thing would be to contact Phloxebutt about it first 8^8

So yeah, that's about it. Offer away ;;A;; (comment your offer, or note me if you prefer)

(As a side note, sorry for how lengthy this journal is OTL this has been bugging me for a while, I had a lot to get out 8n8)

Chirp!!

Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:21 PM